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[Oracle]

I hear you, but I don't want to lump Murph in with Don, two very different people.

I also agree with Murph that we need to get back to basketball, nobody is going to complain too hard about the occasional rant post, but we have been on this for quite some time.

Just my opinion.

[WTF]

If you read what Don says, you have to understand that something is going on there that can't be fixed... leave it alone.

Oracle I'm simply telling both of them they don't have to respond to what I post, they don't have to like it, read it or believe it.  I keep saying I'm not looking for a response because I've have already concluded with what I dealing with when it comes to both of them and I sincerely mean that.   Because I've come my conclusions I refuse to debate with them largely in part when Don or Murph thinks it okay to make personal comments oppose to responding to what I actually post.  

I don't have any interest in getting into a tit for tat, or responding to Don long page of nonsense.  WTF with him finding a need to single out me and you I'm just reminding both that they don't have to read my post.

[Oracle]

If you read what Don says, you have to understand that something is going on there that can't be fixed... leave it alone.

[WTF]

Yes let us stick to basketball Oracle and WTF. You are both a good example of how a lifetime of propaganda does work.

As I stated in a previous post I'm going to post my comments when and wherever I want too so you can either read it or not.  It's certainly not up for debate and I'm not trying to defend it.  

Don you don't know WTF influence me to think the way I do but I assure it's not MSNBC, CNN or any other source of information.  Please know that I choose common sense and decency over and above all else so fu@k Trump and those that support his behavior or that choose to ignore it.  

But again I'm not posting my Trump comments to debate either you or Murph (love, humanity, decency, tolerance, respect, equality) these are all common sense things clearly this something neither you are capable of comprehending because that's what my post are about.  It goes in one ear and out the other and I honestly don't think either of you are morally capable of addressing it or at least there's no attempt too.  

Example being I called Trumps behavior racist, childish, and ignorant and the only thing you two do is bring up Hillary, Dem, MSNBC, or anything but.  For this reason I have no interest in debating either you concerning my Trump comments so just ignore them.  I've already concluded in my mind that I wouldn't even be shocked if you or him wanted to call me the N Word or perhaps you have in your mind while responding to what I post that's real.  But again I don't care what you're thinking.

I stand by what I said' how much of a turd a president must be if you banned from 2 funerals, a royal wedding, and NBA/NFL don't want to visit the WH, I stand by that he's a racist,  I stand by him being shady as a business man,  I stand by the fact he lies 30 times a day,  but  again just don't  read my damn comments.   I think many of his supporters are just like him.  Hmmmm think about that....

My comments again are my own vents concerning your president and not open for debate,  you can either like it or you don't I really don't give a fu@k to be truthful just skip pass it.

[cool breeze]

The better course is to do what you do with all criminals... lock them up. They're going to have enough on Trump and his kids to put them in jail for a long time, both sons and Ivanka.

For a party that's always been law and order, this should be music to their ears, criminals being locked up.

BTW, here is a list of Trumps crooks(source Fox News): Who's been charged by Mueller in the Russia probe so far?
1. Michael Flynn
2. Paul Manafort
3. Richard Gates
4. George Papadopoulos
5. Alex van der Zwaan
6. Richard Pinedo
7. 13 Russian Nationals
8. 12 Russian Intelligence Officers

Next up(my guess):
1. Both Trump Sons
2. Ivanka
3. Others we don't know about yet

And finally Trump. He's a criminal that needs jailing, and he's going to get it from one source or another.
1. He gets indicted and convicted by the DOJ, and NO, there is nothing in the constitution that says you can't jail a president
2. He gets indicted and convicted by New York State

Or the other option is that he resigns and they let a lot of this go... time will tell.

Don: You're the most delusional person I've seen. We don't let criminals off because they love the country and treat their Mom's nice!

What's the matter, can't you argue that the man is innocent???

And Oracle there's a bunch of others that are flipping so they won't be charged or face jail time.  That's why Pecker and the accountant are turning on him now.   

I'm convince that Comrades Murph and Don like many supporters can see 40 people facing charges and still conclude it's only 2 and there's no collusion even though it's obvious there is.   

They can't even figure out that Mueller is toying with Trump that he doesn't have to come to a conclusion on if he colluded or not he already has enough proof of that.  I these other things are for kicks and giggles because the President is such an asshole. 

They too blind to see the reason why Mueller been kicking this stuff to the state level,  they're to blind to see that Trump is being done in by people who were lifetime republican and appointed by republicans.  Still they want to find time to bash Dems and blame them for this.

Yes let us stick to basketball Oracle and WTF. You are both a good example of how a lifetime of propaganda does work. Check your premises and try to think on your own without "group Think" determining how you should make your at election time. If Pence or any other republican who had won the election of your God Hillary Clinton, there would be a witch hunt on that person because those text messages don't lie between Peter and Lisa just before the election. Oracle did you pull out everything from your 401K after Trump won? Don't you hate it that you will pay less taxes next April? You are conditioned to being punished by democratic policies but then perhaps you get your pay check from the backs of tax payers. I know you can't wait for your party to win it all again. Make sure you vote the straight ticket because that will punish all those stupid uneducated "deplorable" folks as Mrs.Clinton called them who live in the Mid West and voted for Trump. Opps that is you Oracle.How will she know you are a faithful dedicated follower unless you move to Washington DC where all the smart swamp people live? Hillary thinks you are an idiot mid Westerner but still you are upset that she lost.

Won't it be grand when the tax law is changed and those evil corporations and "rich" people can be punished can be punished and are forced to escape to other countries to do business. IF you are a minority person it will be great to increase the unemployment rolls too. As long as democrats win that is all that matters. Climate change can be in the news every day where it belongs. And "pay to play" swamp action will come back strong too. Democrats are expert swamp people but they care about everyone who lives in Michigan. No the only President who has given a crap about anyone in the Mid West since I was born is President Trump.Make sure you vote with the 97% voting block where almost every registered voter is part of the swamp who vote in Washington DC.

Why hasn't Mueller investigated Vice President Biden for his pay to play crimes that happened between 2014-2016 when Biden traveled to the Ukraine and China to represent the USA in new trade deals. Somehow wire transfers were made to Hunter or Robert Biden for millions of dollars as they were fueling up VP Biden's jet. What is Mueller investigating involving the "Russian Probe" involving Hillary Clinton and "Uranium One" and all that foreign money that went into the Clinton Foundation? But of course Trump is 'unhinged" just as McCain was said to be when he ran for President. No person other than a registered Progressive democrat can do the job. If Pence or anyone other than Hillary had won this last election, Mueller would be trying to ruin that person's plan to make our country better and people more successful as individuals rather than protect the "swamp". Got to keep a good thing going for all the good lawyers in DC.

From reading your posts it is clear that you do not have a clue as to what has happened in American history since President Kennedy was killed. It is sad that you can't sort out the facts. Be happy with your world view because it is a sure thing that the good times we are having now will not last and your team will win most of not all of the future elections in the next 10 years. Keep your chin up as you see your 401K disappear. The citizens must be punished. The progressives will make everything "fair". The government class will grow and no intellectual diversity will be tolerated. My only hope is that more citizens will become actual individuals who can think on their own for what is best for their families. To do that you have to become an "independent" and divorce yourself from being a team member of one political party. Both democrats and republicans hate Trump in Washington and it isn't about his past transgressions 10 or 20 years ago as a billionaire individual. He has eliminated hundreds of regulations that benefit the swamp and hurt honest business owners and tax payers. He has ended "pay to play" by cabinet members and Vice Presidents. He is making other countries in NATO pay their fair share when no previous President even asked wealthy countries like Germany to pay their fair share. As long as former diplomats could take home a suitcase of cash during NATO meetings, who cares. American tax payers who pay for NATO are so damn dumb they will never think about the cost of NATO and why America has to pay the bulk of the expense. Who cares that American Tax payers are paying for all those unskilled workers who infiltrate across our borders once they arrive on American soil? Sure you only vote based on policy Oracle? The progressive democrats have no plan other than tear down everything that is left of the USA and making sure every American believes in climate change. Again are progressive sure that we all don't already get it that the climate just like our bodies will always be changing? Before you call me delusional, check your premises as to what you really believe in and want for your kids future.

Now on to the Pistons and another year of AD and RJ.

[Oracle]

I posted about basketball and nobody seemed to care 

These diversions always happen in the dog days of summer, waiting for some action... in short, we're BORED 

For what it's worth, I don't hate Trump, I always focus on policy, the stuff any President or political figure implements.

The law shouldn't be focused on like or dislike, but you can't talk policy or law to people that are emotionally involved.

Nobody can sway me away from the Pistons, Lions, Red Wings, Michigan, State and the list goes on, I'm emotionally involved, I'll defend then no matter what... but that's sports! That's going on with Trump supporters, I get it, but there are lines you should never cross.

But I digress, I'm going back to basketball 

[Murph]

We can go back and forth on this until Hell freezes over.

Why don't y'all find a political forum were you can bash Trump to your hearts content? There are certainly plenty of them out there. 

This is a basketball forum.  Yet no has posed a thing on basketball in three days.

I get it.  You hate Trump.  You really, really hate Trump.  You really, really, really hate Trump.  Believe me, I get it. You hate Trump.


Can we please go back to basketball now?????????

[Oracle]

Murph, I never liked McCain either, but I respected him.

That man is history, great American history, and that should be separated from any other political views anybody should have about him. I felt the same way about Pete Rose, what he did on the field was amazing and you shouldn't take that away from him because of off field gambling.

This Mexican free trade deal SUCKS!

I thought Republicans hated minimum wages imposed by the government! Well Trump is forcing the Mexicans to pay their people a minimum of $16/hr in that agreement, but he doesn't give two craps about Americans wages.

BTW, that's designed to replace the tariffs and place yet another TAX on the American people, and you're cheering about this? Even worse, the tax cuts and this crap is like getting a dose of sugar. Yeah, your energy will get a boost, but you're going to pay for it later.

Watch these companies eat up all of the extra profit, raise prices on all of us and start crying that they need even more tax cuts before they can start hiring again. It's a shell game, but it looks like it never gets old.

And they said you can't fool people all of the time....

[Murph]

Oh...and in real news today, the Dow Jones Industrial Average soared another 259 point to yet another new all-time high, on the replacement of NAFTA with the United States Mexico Trade Agreement.

That ought to be good for the auto industry and jobs in Detroit and Michigan.  

Keep up the good work, President Trump!

[Murph]

I was never a big John McCain fan.  Yeah sure, he was a POW and got the living daylights beaten out of him, and he was certainly a curmudgeon in the Senate.

But when it came to good judgement, McCain was lacking.  He was of course, a huge neo-con.  I don't think he ever saw a war that he didn't want to involve the United States in.  He was all gun-ho in the run up to the Iraq War, and voted enthusiastically for that debacle.

And along with his dreadful foreign policy, there was his choice for VP...Sarah Palin.  She certainly wasn't the brightest bulb on the porch, and was a big detriment to his candidacy.  Almost anyone else would have been a better choice as a running mate.

And there was more.  His involvement in the Savings and Loan scandal in the 1980's as part of the Keating Five.  That cost the Federal Government many billions of dollars.

And then there was his thumbs down vote in the Senate on the repeal of ObamaCare, after he ran for re-election on repealing ObamaCare .  Geesh...what a hypocrite.

Oh, and he got along famously with Hillary Clinton.  The were old drinking buds.    I guess he shared her bad judgement and neo-conservative ideology.


Let me put this way, I don't know how may times McCain ran for President and lost, but I never even considered voting for the old kook once. And I sincerely doubt if anyone on this forum ever voted for him either...maybe Don.

I hate to speak ill of the dead, but I never liked the guy.

[WTF]

How much of a turd you must be that you can't get invited to the Royal Wedding, and a Funeral not just one but two of them and the decease are both strong republicans at that.   I guess that's the Dems fault or more Fake News  Such an Ass Wipe!

How big of a turd you must be that NBA and NFL players don't even want to visit your Sorry Ass at the White House   

How big of a turd you must be that the flags aren't still flying half staff for a WAR HERO!, A VETERAN! and historic republican political figure. Such an Ass Hole of the worse kind.   There's nothing patriotic about this **** but yet you up in arms when a Black Man chose to kneel there's nothing American about you at all.  

Ties made in China, Russian Kiss Ass Turd!!!!

Obama Admin:  0 indictments, 0 conviction, 0 criminal charges,  and your dumbass couldn't appeal nor replace Obamacare! You Orange Clown!

[WTF]

Great Respect for this Great Man

[Oracle]

[Murph]

Yeah, yeah...whatever.  Last week it was Omorosa Manigault-Newman.  This week it's Michael Cohen and Paul Manaforte.  Has CNN ever been right about anything?

The last I looked Trump is still President, the economy is still humming along, and Trump is still keeping us out of wars, creating jobs, negotiating better trade deals and tightening border security.  I can see how much that upsets you Democrats.  

If you want Trump out of office, you're going to have to do it the old fashioned way...by winning elections.  Trump is NOT going to resign.  So you're going to have to win back the House in 2018 or 2020, and you're going to have to win 2/3s of the Senate.  Good luck with that.  

Or you're going to have to run presidential candidates better than wild eyed self proclaimed socialists like Kam Harris or Bernie Sanders, or doddering old hags like Liz Warren or Joe Biden in 2020.  Again, good luck with that.

In the meantime, enjoy the peace and prosperity.  As a country, we don't enjoy times like these nearly enough.  

[WTF]

The better course is to do what you do with all criminals... lock them up. They're going to have enough on Trump and his kids to put them in jail for a long time, both sons and Ivanka.

For a party that's always been law and order, this should be music to their ears, criminals being locked up.

BTW, here is a list of Trumps crooks(source Fox News): Who's been charged by Mueller in the Russia probe so far?
1. Michael Flynn
2. Paul Manafort
3. Richard Gates
4. George Papadopoulos
5. Alex van der Zwaan
6. Richard Pinedo
7. 13 Russian Nationals
8. 12 Russian Intelligence Officers

Next up(my guess):
1. Both Trump Sons
2. Ivanka
3. Others we don't know about yet

And finally Trump. He's a criminal that needs jailing, and he's going to get it from one source or another.
1. He gets indicted and convicted by the DOJ, and NO, there is nothing in the constitution that says you can't jail a president
2. He gets indicted and convicted by New York State

Or the other option is that he resigns and they let a lot of this go... time will tell.

Don: You're the most delusional person I've seen. We don't let criminals off because they love the country and treat their Mom's nice!

What's the matter, can't you argue that the man is innocent???

And Oracle there's a bunch of others that are flipping so they won't be charged or face jail time.  That's why Pecker and the accountant are turning on him now.   

I'm convince that Comrades Murph and Don like many supporters can see 40 people facing charges and still conclude it's only 2 and there's no collusion even though it's obvious there is.   

They can't even figure out that Mueller is toying with Trump that he doesn't have to come to a conclusion on if he colluded or not he already has enough proof of that.  I these other things are for kicks and giggles because the President is such an asshole. 

They too blind to see the reason why Mueller been kicking this stuff to the state level,  they're to blind to see that Trump is being done in by people who were lifetime republican and appointed by republicans.  Still they want to find time to bash Dems and blame them for this.

[Oracle]

Good luck trying to take the Senate.  That isn't going to happen.  And please don't tell me you're going to vote for Debbie Stabenow over John James for the Senate in MI.  Please grow a pair

And instead of proving collusion, Mueller has proven Manaforte cheated on his taxes and Cohen paid hush money to a porn star.     Yeah, that's well worth $25 million of our tax dollars. Before people said he proved nothing, but it's not just the two you list here, there's a bunch of folks doing criminal activity... and there's plenty more to come.

Taking the Senate is a tough task, and certainly wouldn't help with impeachment, which is why I believe impeachment should be off the table.

While the house could impeach, and if Clinton could be impeached for basically nothing but a blow job, Trump is certainly eligible for his many crimes. Having said that, there's no win in doing this. He'll never be convicted in the Senate which requires a two thirds vote, so why waste the people's time and money.

The better course is to do what you do with all criminals... lock them up. They're going to have enough on Trump and his kids to put them in jail for a long time, both sons and Ivanka.

For a party that's always been law and order, this should be music to their ears, criminals being locked up.

BTW, here is a list of Trumps crooks(source Fox News): Who's been charged by Mueller in the Russia probe so far?
1. Michael Flynn
2. Paul Manafort
3. Richard Gates
4. George Papadopoulos
5. Alex van der Zwaan
6. Richard Pinedo
7. 13 Russian Nationals
8. 12 Russian Intelligence Officers

Next up(my guess):
1. Both Trump Sons
2. Ivanka
3. Others we don't know about yet

And finally Trump. He's a criminal that needs jailing, and he's going to get it from one source or another.
1. He gets indicted and convicted by the DOJ, and NO, there is nothing in the constitution that says you can't jail a president
2. He gets indicted and convicted by New York State

Or the other option is that he resigns and they let a lot of this go... time will tell.

Don: You're the most delusional person I've seen. We don't let criminals off because they love the country and treat their Mom's nice!

What's the matter, can't you argue that the man is innocent???

[cool breeze]

[quote="Murph"]Good luck trying to take the Senate.  That isn't going to happen.  And please don't tell me you're going to vote for Debbie Stabenow over John James for the Senate in MI.  Please grow a pair


And instead of proving collusion, Mueller has proven Manaforte cheated on his taxes and Cohen paid hush money to a porn star.     Yeah, that's well worth $25 million of our tax dollars.[/quote

Murph perhaps Mueller will bring back his best buddy, Boston's old crime boss Whitey Bulgar from the grave to testify against Trump. Maybe his hand selected attorneys who attended Hillary Clinton's election night party will now investigate Trump as a potential hateful man who does not agree to the Climate Expert Progressives solution to Climate Change. Notice it is not longer Global warming worry that has taken center stage with Progressives. It is overall Climate Change just in case the climate is actually cooling they won't be on the wrong side of things. Climate change trumps living a happy and prosperous life in the here and now. We must worry about how we can reduce carbon emissions by 2% within 90 years after spending trillions of dollars on the Climate Expert research.

Progressives who crave a socialist totalitarian government are the product of our corrupt public education institutions and public universities that brain wash students to the point where instead of being encouraged to find truth though logic and reason adopt their political party as a religion. When I attended school my teachers supported a Pledge of Allegiance to our country. When I was in the army we stood at attention to pledge to give our lives to protect our country and the flag was a symbol of the sacrifice others had made in the past. Now public school children are indoctrinated to hate our country and especially Capitalism and a Constitutional Republic form of government that has a separation of powers and a Bill of Rights to protect individuals from government.

The teaching and administration professions in education have been infiltrated much like happened in Germany in the late 1920s by totalitarian indoctinators. Progressive religious dogma has brainwashed millions of people since the late 1960s. 97.5% or more are registered true believers in the Progressive agenda. For Progressive followers, it has become very emotional when their party loses in an election. They can't accept that others think differently from them. It is OK that for Progressive followers much like Jim Jones followers do not flinch when their deputy director of the progressive democratic progressive party stated that if we cannot beat them with our riots and demonstrations, we will beat them with our fists. If that doesn't work we will use knives and so on. I want to know who he is referring to. Should everyone who is not a Progressive be sent to a concentration camp or stabbed with a knife? Be careful what you wish for because in a socialist system groups turn against groups and if you are in the group out of power, your life might be in peril.In that system as opposed to our current system, you right to life is granted by the State. You are no longer born with a right to life. The goal is to rip up our our constitution and Bill of Rights so the State can determine your fate. That was Tom Hayden's plan who was the old SDS leader from U of M. He wasn't interested in the Vietnam war according to the declassified FBI reports. Tom was trying to get boots on the ground or followers who would would be the type of people who obey whatever orders he gave those mindless followers.

Even when the economy is fantastic since Trump became President, Progressives must ignore that fact and hate the fact that unemployment figures are at historic low levels now and wages are higher with most people feeling more confident about their futures. The battle cry is to get Trump out of office as quickly as possible so Progressive leaders can get the country on a new direction. Progressives gather in groups, memorize the dogma and throw eggs at beautiful young women who attend Trump rallies. There is no reasoning with Progressive democrats who have stolen the democratic party from Liberal democrats. Progressives want to return to the stone age and submit to whatever punishment their leaders can create. Never question what their leadership might say. If they say Trump is a racist, then you better believe it or you might be scorned and kicked out of your group.

Say no to low unemployment in the private sector and grow the public sector. But how will wages for public school teachers grow when the middle class collapses with higher taxes and corporations are punished with higher taxes that cause loss of jobs to people in the private sector? I know this is very confusing for all progressives who believe their view of the world based on propaganda a hate gives conflicting signals. How will your wages grow if you screw everyone who works in the private sector who pay for your retirement?? If the economy sucks like it was under President Obama who stated only 1.5 GDP growth is possible, where does the tax money come from to support schools? How many economics classes have any Progressives ever taken to know about supply and demand etc? Can the government just keep printing money to increase your salaries?

Progressives get fulfillment by watching the alleged news provided on NBC, CNN, MSMBC, CBS, ABC. Or perhaps they digest New York Times. wait a minute it was those news networks that conspired with John Podesta and Hillary Clinton to steal the nomination before the democratic convention all proven by the hacked e-mails between the candidate and the news outlets. They picked Hillary over B. Sanders. Who will they pick next time? Could it be Hitler Jr? If so you will all be on board. Propaganda and nonsense rules you. Hate all private corporations and independent individuals even though they might sign your pay check. Corporations, individuals who hope for more upward mobility need to be punished. You were told that in school and by the media. Those you have been conditioned to hate are greedy selfish bastards who must be put down. We need more regulations and to impose rigid control on the American population because there are some who even dare to oppose the Paris Climate accord. We must punish them with more taxes so college professors can get all expense paid for trips to Europe to attend Climate group think conferences. Don't dare deny everything you are told about global warming or just climate change itself. It is all just to difficult to understand so you must be a believer above all else and hunt down all who deny the solutions created by the alleged Climate Experts. It doesn't matter if you never took a chemistry class and others who question the logic of the Climate Experts who have Chemistry degrees say Climate Experts have a bogus plan created to steal tax dollars. The important thing is to believe in climate change as if everyone with half a brain doesn't already know the climate will always continue to change like our bodies change as we age. Those who never took a science class think they are on to something with this climate change issue. Wow the climate is changing how scary it that?? What are we going to do? Can't sleep now maybe? That is much more scary than a home invasion right? Americans who do not want to contribute their fair share to stopping climate warming or cooling must be identified a audited by the IRS or be questioned by attorneys working with Mueller in the Russian probe.

What do progressives really want? They want a power elite group to worship and will be happy to submit to slavery and will pick rocks every day for the rest of their lives believing they have won something. The ruling class will tell them that some other nasty group or maybe a private corporation still in existence could be responsible for their need to swing the pick 12 hours a day for bread and water as a reward. Nothing to worry about because your progressive leaders will hunt down the group or corporation responsible. Meanwhile keeping swinging your pick and obey the Master.

Joseph Stalin, leader of another wonderful socialist totalitarian system was quoted saying "Americans are the most gullible people on the face of the Earth with the exception of the British". During WW2 Roosevelt said "Joe is my friend" but trusting Franklin never knew that Stalin could speak and read and write in English and had spies in Roosevelt's government controlling the State Department and treasury. Why did so much money go to the USSR instead of our troops fighting in the Pacific in WW2? Stalin always had an interrupter with him when in conference with his best friend Franklin Roosevelt who sold out all the citizens of Eastern Europe and allowed the Soviet Union to kidnap and send 50,000 American and British soldiers to Russia to spend the rest of their lives in a gulag. Yes the Roosevelt administration classified that theft of heroic American soldiers as Top Secret so relatives would think their loved ones had been killed in the war. It appears that Roosevelt and the people working for him in the State department liked Stalin and the Soviet Union more than their own young airmen and soldier who were citizens of the US. Yes it makes good sense that Progressives believe that those who enter our country now illegally are more important than the actual citizens who pay taxes. If you are a true believer it makes sense for sure. It is better for illegals to get free medical care than citizens along with free education where citizens have to pay those taxes to keep schools open. And it is fun to pay more taxes to support law enforcement and the court system so illegals can get free legal assistance. Only when a loved one is murdered by a illegal do any Progressives question the logic of their Master Progressive leaders that the political position of getting more votes potentially from those who enter our country illegally is more important than basic public safety. It was only blind luck that Truman was selected as Vice President at the democratic convention before Roosevelt's last election or the God Father of all Progressives "Henry Wallace" would have ruined our country a long time ago and America would now have a similar economy to Bulgaria now.

Trump is the outsider who has been the first President in a long time to actually make the lives of individual Americans better and they still don't know it because their minds have been conditioned to the point where their is no chance for them to think for themselves as individuals. But i still pray for some of them to become Independent logical thinkers because you are not a winner when your party does win an election. It is fools gold.

[WTF]

LOCK HIM UP!  LOCK HIM UP!  LOCK HIM UP!

[Murph]

Good luck trying to take the Senate. That isn't going to happen. And please don't tell me you're going to vote for Debbie Stabenow over John James for the Senate in MI. Please grow a pair


And instead of proving collusion, Mueller has proven Manaforte cheated on his taxes and Cohen paid hush money to a porn star. Yeah, that's well worth $25 million of our tax dollars.

[WTF]

If the Senate voted to disqualify an impeached and convicted President from future office, he/she could never serve the office again.

[cool breeze]

As we near the start of training camp there's some things that vex me about this team.
1. It's loaded with perimeter players, albeit, none of which is a difference maker at SF or PG. It seems we could've got one.
2. We still talk about how important Reggie Jackson is to this team, like he's Kyrie, Wall, Lilliard, or a championship level PG.
3. The true problem with Jon Leuer is being completely overlooked; his drawback is not physical but, mental! We need him?!
4. We've made Glenn Robinson lll out to be some sort of potential savior simply because he played for the Wolverines. Not so.
5. Henry Ellenson simply can't be the scapegoat for faulty decision making; not developing Brown and Thomas will be a mistake.

If our roster is loaded with perimeter players it seems that would be the strength of the team; we've got an abundance of shooters, scorers, and defenders in those guys and with the current COTY, making adjustments based game recognition shouldn't be a problem. Gamble some in pushing the right buttons.

Did Stefanski, really go hard after players like CJ McCollum, Terry Rozier, to replace Reggie Jackson, or are we still stuck on turning a sows ear into a silk purse? If there's endless excuses for not trading RJ, why the phuque are we penciling him in at such a prominent position? Seems like we're giving up before we get started.

Strange how the media remembers that blip on the teams radar, we so fondly refer to as "our return to the playoffs," but have convenient amnesia when it comes to recalling that without injury or pressing personal problems Leuer's game suddenly went into the toilet. Damn I miss Tolliver, almost as much as Harris/Morris.

Coach Casey is determined to make something of Stanley Johnson, which is okay with me, and GR lll is an essential part of that late career blooming and nothing more...on this roster he'll become an important rotational piece, as will Thomas, Brown, and Kennard. Hopefully Casey will play the talent over the contracts.

This team, if blessed with good health and open-minded coaching, can make a surprising turnaround this year and form a "family" type chemistry all that's required from the fan base is patience. I think we've got more going for us than against us.    

dX it seems clear why Reggie Jackson was not traded. Nobody wants his contract based on his current ability to play the point guard position on offense and his complete inability to defend any starting point guard or 2 guard n the current NBA. Also, AD doesn't want Reggie traded and AD has the ear of the owner. The owner needs to remove himself from his personal relationships with the players and allow others to make decisions on trades and draft picks. It is not just the owner who has screwed up the team chemistry and make up of the roster but his buddies who also have pieces of the ownership of the Pistons. I think the ownership group is trying to do the right thing but so many mistakes have been made regarding the composition of the roster as you pointed out along with the financial commitment to average caliber players which now handcuffs management from upgrading talent. The Pistons need a high caliber point guard or at least an average defender at that position. Smith is too small to defend starting caliber players but he is a much better defender than Reggie. Can this coach find one player currently on the roster who can take the starting job from Reggie? I would bet that Kennard can do a better job and if not Brown or Thomas might surprise as the season wears on. In my opinion, Reggie Jackson's only chance of success at this point in his career is to play more off the ball and shoot it from distance at a high percentage. Reggie is a good shooter and driver. But can he make a commitment to defense and create offense without the ball constantly in his hands? Or will Reggie come off the bench as winter closes in? It seems the best option for the Pistons is for Blake Griffin to initiate the offense on most possessions.

[Murph]

Go ahead and impeach him.  He'll still get re-elected.

Democrats are scrumbags.  They can't come up with any decent policies, so they play these bullshit gotcha games to try to win back the White House.

Here's a concept.  How about Democrats actually come up with some ideas that are good for the country...instead of their usual socialist, globalist, neo-conservative crap?

[WTF]

Talking about getting backdoored    This is too funny they threw collusion in his face (which he did) all the while sticking him in his arse with campaign fraud and obstruction.  Nothing Fake about this news.

You see being ignorant and arrogant gets you nowhere, twitting all that BS will get you nowhere.  If I was him I would just STFU and be quiet but he can't even though the more he opens his mouth or start twitting he keep digging the hole deeper.  It's sad but funny at the same time SMH   

Flipping should be illegal    He just got Pecked by the Pecker this man has a lifetime of **** he's about to let loose, are you hearing this a lifetime worth and now his CEO of the foundation about to spill the beans.  

See many of you thought this cramp was cute and funny and forgot about politics and diplomacy.  Nope you wanted reality tv so now you're getting it. You were all played so desperate to believe anything just to turn on the status quo blah blah norm.  We all were tired of the norm but damn if taking a flying leap into insanity should have been an option.  

I'm crying and laughing this is again both tragically sad  and funny as hell .   I can't believe some of you let this man insult your intelligence with the dumb **** he say's   

Okay back to sports

[WTF]

Glad to see Blake took his own initiative to seek therapy and not have the false illusion that it's a perceived weakness when it's a strength to recognize when external help is required. 

Sound as if this something sought prior but I still think that as an organization therapy should be something mandated.

[deusXango]

As we near the start of training camp there's some things that vex me about this team.
1. It's loaded with perimeter players, albeit, none of which is a difference maker at SF or PG. It seems we could've got one.
2. We still talk about how important Reggie Jackson is to this team, like he's Kyrie, Wall, Lilliard, or a championship level PG.
3. The true problem with Jon Leuer is being completely overlooked; his drawback is not physical but, mental! We need him?!
4. We've made Glenn Robinson lll out to be some sort of potential savior simply because he played for the Wolverines. Not so.
5. Henry Ellenson simply can't be the scapegoat for faulty decision making; not developing Brown and Thomas will be a mistake.

If our roster is loaded with perimeter players it seems that would be the strength of the team; we've got an abundance of shooters, scorers, and defenders in those guys and with the current COTY, making adjustments based game recognition shouldn't be a problem. Gamble some in pushing the right buttons.

Did Stefanski, really go hard after players like CJ McCollum, Terry Rozier, to replace Reggie Jackson, or are we still stuck on turning a sows ear into a silk purse? If there's endless excuses for not trading RJ, why the phuque are we penciling him in at such a prominent position? Seems like we're giving up before we get started.

Strange how the media remembers that blip on the teams radar, we so fondly refer to as "our return to the playoffs," but have convenient amnesia when it comes to recalling that without injury or pressing personal problems Leuer's game suddenly went into the toilet. Damn I miss Tolliver, almost as much as Harris/Morris.

Coach Casey is determined to make something of Stanley Johnson, which is okay with me, and GR lll is an essential part of that late career blooming and nothing more...on this roster he'll become an important rotational piece, as will Thomas, Brown, and Kennard. Hopefully Casey will play the talent over the contracts.

This team, if blessed with good health and open-minded coaching, can make a surprising turnaround this year and form a "family" type chemistry all that's required from the fan base is patience. I think we've got more going for us than against us.

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