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Sour Cynic you just don't get it and you never will

Post  WTF on Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:19 pm

Phil1980boy wrote:"Out of the 30 odd teams how many coaches have titles? Rick Carlise and Pop. That means 28 teams has shitty coaches."


You don't even know what your talking about. First off Sour Cynic, I SAID JUST GET TO THE FINALS! Flip Mr Softy Saunders can't even get to the big dance. THAT'S THE POINT YOU BASKETBALL-RETARD!

Just get to the damn dance!

Second, replace Joe with who? Give me the names of GM'S out there looking for A job who has 6 eastern conference championships appearances, 2 NBA Finals appearances, NO MAX Salary Players, Executive of the year and is willing to come to the Detroit Pistons without breaking the pockets of the new owner? WHO? WHO? WHO?

You are so stupid.... that you will cry for Joe to be fired but please find somebody to replace him who is just as qualified or more qualified as he is. WHO? WHO? Tell me please who? Give me names?


Damn! Who? WHO? Give me A FUCKING NAME PLEASE!!? WHO? WHO? WHO? WHO? WHO? WHO? WHO? WHO? WHO? Give me A fucking name? WHO? WHO? WHO?



No more fucking fantasy talk. Let's talk real shit for 1 time in your life SOUR CYNIC! WHO? WHO? WHO? WHO? Tell me A name? WHO? WHO? WHO?

Give me 5 name right now? WHO WHO WHO WHO???

YOU CRY ALL DAY EVERYDAY! WHO? WHO? Can I get 5 name PLEASE!!! And they better have done what Joe has done? WHO? WHO? WHO? FUCKING WHO? Give me names And I will respect your bitching and crying all day everyday. WHO??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

More of this same tired arguement of an excuses. Joe didn't have those credential before he was hire and who's to say his replacement wouldn't surpass what he accomplished. Maybe the next GM Triples what Joe has done, I told you Pee Boy your a kiss ass retard without a brain for reasoning. And that goes for everyone that makes that stupid arguement to keep Joe.

I would like to think you have enough sense to know that jsut because you haven't doesn't mean you can't. Are you can't be president if you never been a president? you can become an actor if you nevered acted? Think about before you reply dum dum. Who to say that whomever Joe is replaced with won't do better other than all you butt sucking cheerleaders?
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SOUR PBOY JUST DON'T GET IT AND NEVER WILL

Post  WTF on Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:37 pm

24. Joe Dumars, Pistons
Hired: 2000

Coaches: George Irvine (2000-2001), Rick Carlisle (2001-2003), Larry Brown (2003-2005), Flip Saunders (2005-2008), Michael Curry (2008-2009), John Kuester (2009-present)

Long-term plan: Rebuild while staying competitive. In other words, an oxymoron, unless you have a superstar, which he doesn't.

Key Draft picks: Darko Milicic (2nd, 2003), Greg Monroe (7th, 2010), Rodney White (9th, 2001), Rodney Stuckey (15th, 2007), Tayshaun Prince (23rd, 2002), Jonas Jerebko (39th, 2009)

Key trades

■2002: Traded Jerry Stackhouse and Brian Cardinal to the Wizards for Rip Hamilton, Hubert Davis and Bobby Simmons.
■2004 season: Traded Chucky Atkins, Lindsey Hunter, Bob Sura and a first-round pick to the Hawks and Celtics for Mike James and Rasheed Wallace
■2008 season: Traded Chauncey Billups and Antonio McDyess to the Nuggets for Allen Iverson's expiring contract
Key free agent signings: Re-signing Billups (2007), Wallace (2005) and Prince (2007). Rip Hamilton in 2008 (three years, $38 million beginning in 2009/10), Ben Gordon in (five years,$55 million), Charlie Villanueva in 2009 (five years, $35 million).

Key free agents let go: Grant Hill (2000), Ben Wallace (2006).

It pains me to put Joe Dumars, the architect of the Pistons teams of the 2000s, this low. However, Dumars has been a disaster since the Chauncey Billups/Allen Iverson trade. Dumars made the deal to regain salary-cap flexibility to rebuild a team that has run it's course, but ended up spending that money on Ben Gordon, Charlie Villanueva and a re-signed, declining Rip Hamilton. He's refused to deal any of his other big-contract players like Tayshaun Prince because he legitimately thinks his team can and should be "competitive" when rebuilding.

That's the problem, though -- you can be "competitive" without major salary obligations to declining players. Dumars, like many of the GMs behind him on this list, fundamentally misunderstands this. I'm not sure why Dumars refuses to take the long-term approach. Sure, their arena is empty, but it seems they have a core of dieharts that are willing to wait around for a long-term rebuilding project. It's not like Dumars is in a city like Charlotte, where the team desperately needs the revenue from home playoff games.

Therefore, the only explanation for Dumars' recent issues is that he must believe that, because he built a "star-less" core earlier, he can do it again. Newsflash Joe: you probably can't. Lightning doesn't strike in the same spot twice.
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You see PBoy I wanted to show that Joe sucks so I post the above showing how the clown ranks 24th amongst GM's I actaully thought it would be worse.


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JOE SUCKS

Post  WTF on Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:54 pm



Joe Dumars with Allen Iverson

Gregory Shamus/Getty Images What is the Detroit Pistons' plan for the future?

After years of winning at the beginning of the new century, the Detroit Pistons have been struggling to stay afloat within the weak Eastern Conference and are stuck in NBA purgatory, a spot every association dreads. Instead of going into a full rebuilding effort, the Pistons are too worried about staying competitive in the present.

By signing veteran role players to keep this team out of contention for the high lottery picks in NBA drafts, the Pistons have essentially locked themselves in as a mediocre squad of the future.

General Manager Joe Dumars is to blame for the Detroit Pistons' roster problems, as he is the one orchestrating all of these debilitating trades and free agent signings. After years of being considered one of the brightest, young general managers in the league, as he acquired the ridiculously talented starting five of Chauncey Billups, Rip Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince, Rasheed Wallace and Ben Wallace, Dumars has found his stock fall from consecutive bad investments.

Since the latest Pistons' glory days, only two prospects have panned out in center Greg Monroe and Rodney Stuckey. In addition, Dumars signed Charlie Villanueva and Ben Gordon to cumbersome contracts that are worth a combined $90 million just three years ago.

The Detroit Pistons may have to give Joe Dumars the oust to get back on the right path to relevancy. However, there has been no news lately regarding his status with the franchise.

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There Are More Dum Moves Than Good Ones Listed Here

Post  WTF on Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:07 pm

TRANSACTIONS:
SEASON 2011-12
January 20 2012
Signed guard Walker Russell Jr.
December 21 2011
Waived guards Walker Russell Jr. and Brian Hamilton and center Jake Voskuhl.
December 17 2011
Re-signed guard Rodney Stuckey.
December 12 2011
Re-signed forward Jonas Jerebko and signed guards Kareem Rush, Walker Russell Jr. and Brian Hamilton and center Jake Voskuhl and waived guard Richard Hamilton.
December 10 2011
Signed guard Damien Wilkins.
December 9 2011
Re-signed forward Tayshaun Prince, signed guard Brandon Knight and forward Vernon Macklin and waived guard Terrico White.
Draft 2011
Selected guard Brandon Knight (8th overall pick), forward Kyle Singler (33rd overall pick) and center Vernon Macklin (52nd overall pick).
June 17 2011
Tendered a qualifying offer to guard Rodney Stuckey.
SEASON 2010-11
June 5 2011
Fired head coach John Kuester.
October 22 2010
Exercised the contract option on forward Austin Daye through 2011-12.
October 20 2010
Waived guard Vernon Hamilton and forward Ike Diogu.
September 28 2010
Signed guard Vernon Hamilton.
September 27 2010
Signed forward Ike Diogu.
August 16 2010
Signed guard Tracy McGrady.
August 13 2010
Signed guard Terrico White.
August 4 2010
Re-signed center Ben Wallace.
July 30 2010
Re-signed guard Will Bynum.
July 6 2010
Signed forward Greg Monroe.
Draft 2010
Selected forwards Greg Monroe (7th overall pick) and Darington Hobson (37th overall pick).
SEASON 2009-10
October 26 2009
Waived forward Deron Washington.
October 21 2009
Waived forward Maceo Baston.
September 30 2009
Signed guard Chucky Atkins and forwards Maceo Baston and Deron Washington.
August 12 2009
Signed center Ben Wallace.
August 10 2009
Named Brian Hill assistant coach.
August 7 2009
Signed forwards DaJuan Summers and Jonas Jerebko.
August 5 2009
Signed forward Austin Daye.
July 22 2009
Signed forward Chris Wilcox.
July 13 2009
Traded guard Arron Afflalo and forward Walter Sharpe to the Denver Nuggets for a 2011 second-round pick and cash.
July 9 2009
Named John Kuester head coach.
July 8 2009
Signed guard Ben Gordon and forward Charlie Villanueva.
July 1 2009
Waived center Fabricio Oberto.
June 30 2009
Fired head coach Michael Curry.
Draft 2009
Selected forwards Austin Daye (15th overall pick), DaJuan Summers (35th overall pick), Jonas Jerebko (39th overall pick) and Chase Budinger (44th overall pick).
Traded the draft rights to forward Chase Budinger to the Houston Rockets for a future second-round pick and cash.
June 23 2009
Traded forward forward Amir Johnson to the Milwaukee Bucks for center Fabricio Oberto.
SEASON 2008-09
April 29 2009
Exercised the contract option on guard Will Bynum through 2009-10.
February 16 2009
Traded guard Alex Acker and a 2011 second-round pick to the Los Angeles Clippers for a conditional 2013 second-round draft pick.
December 9 2008
Signed forward Antonio McDyess.
November 3 2008
Traded guard Chauncey Billups, forward Antonio McDyess and center Cheikh Samb to the Denver Nuggets for guard Allen Iverson.
October 31 2008
Signed forward Jason Maxiell to a contract extension.
September 29 2008
Signed guard Alex Acker.
August 11 2008
Re-signed forward Walter Herrmann.
August 6 2008
Signed forward Walter Sharpe.
August 5 2008
Exercised the contract options on guards Rodney Stuckey and Arron Afflalo through 2009-10.
August 4 2008
Signed forward Kwame Brown.
July 23 2008
Signed guard Will Bynum.
Draft 2008
Selected forwards DJ White (29th overall pick) and Deron Washington (59th overall pick).
Traded the draft rights to forward DJ White to the Seattle SuperSonics for the draft rights to forward Walter Sharpe and center Trent Plaisted.
June 23 2008
Named Darrell Walker, Pat Sullivan and Harold Ellis assistant coaches.
June 10 2008
Named Michael Curry head coach.
June 3 2008
Fired head coach Flip Saunders.
SEASON 2007-08
April 21 2008
Named Scott Perry vice president of basketball operations.
March 4 2008
Signed center Theo Ratliff.
February 22 2008
Waived guard Ronald Murray.
February 21 2008
Traded center Primoz Brezec to the Toronto Raptors for guard Juan Dixon.
December 14 2007
Traded center Nazr Mohammed to the Charlotte Bobcats for center Primoz Brezec and forward Walter Herrmann and waived forward Ronald Dupree.
October 29 2007
Waived guard Sammy Mejia.
October 15 2007
Waived guard Gerald Fitch.
October 1 2007
Exercised the contract option on forward Jason Maxiell through 2008-09 and signed guard Gerald Fitch.
August 16 2007
Signed forward Jarvis Hayes.
July 23 2007
Signed guard Sammy Mejia and signed forward Antonio McDyess to a contract extension.
July 17 2007
Signed center Cheick Samb.
July 13 2007
Re-signed forward Amir Johnson.
July 11 2007
Re-signed guard Chauncey Billups.
July 6 2007
Signed guards Rodney Stuckey and Arron Afflalo.
June 29 2007
Named Michael Curry assistant coach and Jeff Weltman director of player personnel.
Draft 2007
Selected guards Rodney Stuckey (15th overall pick), Arron Afflalo (27th overall pick) and Sammy Mejia (57th overall pick).
June 15 2007
Traded forward Carlos Delfino to the Toronto Raptors for two future second-round picks.
SEASON 2006-07
January 16 2007
Signed forward Chris Webber.
October 20 2006
Exercised the contract options on forwards Carlos Delfino and Jason Maxiell through 2007-08.
September 12 2006
Named Dave Cowens assistant coach.
August 23 2006
Named Terry Porter assistant coach.
July 24 2006
Signed guard Will Blalock.
July 18 2006
Signed guard Ronald Murray, forward Ronald Dupree and center Nazr Mohammed and re-signed guard Lindsey Hunter.
Draft 2006
Selected guard Will Blalock (60th overall pick).
Traded guard Maurice Evans to the Los Angeles Lakers for the draft rights to center Cheick Samb.
SEASON 2005-06
March 1 2006
Signed guard Tony Delk.
February 15 2006
Traded forward Darko Milicic and guard Carlos Arroyo to the Orlando Magic for center Kelvin Cato and a future first-round pick.
October 31 2005
Signed forward Tayshaun Prince to a contract extension; traded forward Ronald Dupree to the Minnesota Timberwolves for a future second-round pick.
September 2 2005
Signed guard Maurice Evans.
August 29 2005
Named Ron Harper assistant coach.
August 26 2005
Signed center Dale Davis.
August 24 2005
Signed guard Maurice Evans to an offer sheet.
August 12 2005
Named Sidney Lowe and Don Zierden assistant coaches.
August 11 2005
Signed guard Alex Acker and forward Amir Johnson.
July 28 2005
Exercised the contract option on forward Darko Milicic.
July 21 2005
Named Flip Saunders head coach.
July 19 2005
Fired head coach Larry Brown.
July 7 2005
Signed forward Jason Maxiell.
Draft 2005
Selected forwards Jason Maxiell (26th overall pick) and Amir Johnson (56th overall pick) and guard Alex Acker (60th overall pick).
SEASON 2004-05
March 4 2005
Signed center Elden Campbell.
January 21 2005
Traded center Elden Campbell and a 2006 first-round pick to the Utah Jazz for guard Carlos Arroyo.
January 14 2005
Signed guard Anthony Goldwire to a second 10-day contract.
January 5 2005
Signed guard Anthony Goldwire to a 10-day contract and waived forward Derrick Coleman.
January 4 2005
Waived guard Smush Parker.
October 18 2004
Waived forward Terrence Shannon and center Nigel Dixon.
October 1 2004
Waived center Amal McCaskill and signed guard Smush Parker, forward Terrence Shannon and center Nigel Dixon.
August 13 2004
Re-signed guard Lindsey Hunter.
August 9 2004
Re-signed forward Darvin Ham.
August 4 2004
Signed guard Horace Jenkins and traded forward Corliss Williamson to the Philadelphia 76ers for forward Derrick Coleman and center Amal McCaskill.
July 23 2004
Re-signed forward Rasheed Wallace and named Gar Heard, Phil Ford and Pat Sullivan assistant coaches.
July 21 2004
Signed forward Ronald Dupree.
July 16 2004
Signed forward Antonio McDyess.
July 14 2004
Signed forward Carlos Delfino.
Draft 2004
Selected guard Rickey Paulding (54th overall pick).
SEASON 2003-04
February 26 2004
Signed guard Lindsey Hunter.
February 19 2004
Traded guards Chucky Atkins and Lindsey Hunter, a first-round pick and cash to the Boston Celtics and guard Bob Sura and center Zeljko Rebraca to the Atlanta Hawks for Mike James from the Boston Celtics and forward Rasheed Wallace from the Atlanta Hawks.
January 20 2004
Waived guard Hubert Davis.
October 28 2003
Signed forward Tremaine Fowlkes.
October 23 2003
Waived forward Ronald Dupree.
October 22 2003
Waived guards Derrick Zimmerman and Justin Hamilton.
October 11 2003
Signed guard Derrick Zimmerman.
October 9 2003
Waived guard AJ Guyton and forward Tang Hamilton.
October 4 2003
Waived guards Chris Garner and Rod Grizzard.
September 29 2003
Signed guards Chris Garner, Rod Grizzard, AJ Guyton and Justin Hamilton and forwards Ronald Dupree and Tang Hamilton.
September 23 2003
Signed forward Darvin Ham.
September 12 2003
Signed forward Darko Milicic.
August 28 2003
Traded forward Michael Curry to the Toronto Raptors for guard Lindsey Hunter.
August 21 2003
Traded forward Clifford Robinson and guard Pepe Sanchez to the Golden State Warriors for guard Bob Sura.
August 12 2003
Re-signed guard Richard Hamilton.
August 7 2003
Named Herb Brown, John Kuester, Mike Woodson, Dave Hanners and Igor Kokoskov assistant coaches.
July 26 2003
Signed center Elden Campbell.
June 30 2003
Tendered a qualifying offer to guard Richard Hamilton.
Draft 2003
Selected forwards Darko Milicic (2nd overall pick) and Carlos Delfino (25th overall pick) and center Andreas Glyniadakis (58th overall pick).
June 2 2003
Named Larry Brown head coach.
May 31 2003
Fired head coach Rick Carlisle.
SEASON 2002-03
March 11 2003
Signed forward Clifford Robinson to a contract extension through 2004-05.
February 5 2003
Signed forward Danny Manning.
October 25 2002
Waived guard Ricky Moore and forward Gabe Muoneke.
October 3 2002
Traded center Mengke Bateer to the San Antonio Spurs for a 2003 second-round draft pick.
October 1 2002
Traded forward Rodney White to the Denver Nuggets for forward Don Reid, center Mengke Bateer and a future first-round draft pick.
September 30 2002
Signed guard Ricky Moore, forward Gabe Muoneke and center Anthony Pelle.
September 24 2002
Waived forward Bobby Simmons.
September 11 2002
Traded guard Jerry Stackhouse, forward Brian Cardinal and center Ratko Varda to the Washington Wizards for guards Richard Hamilton and Hubert Davis and forward Bobby Simmons.
August 21 2002
Signed forward Mehmet Okur to a multi-year contract.
August 5 2002
Bought out the contract of forward Mikki Moore.
July 17 2002
Signed guard Chauncey Billups to a multi-year contract.
Draft 2002
Selected forward Tayshaun Prince (23rd overall pick).
SEASON 2001-02
October 29 2001
Signed guard Damon Jones.
October 25 2001
Waived guard Reggie Geary.
October 15 2001
Waived guards Nate Green and Ricky Price.
September 28 2001
Signed free agent guards Reggie Geary, Nate Green and Ricky Price.
September 10 2001
Re-signed forward Brian Cardinal to a multi-year contract; signed forward Victor Alexander.
September 7 2001
Traded Mateen Cleaves to the Sacramento Kings for guard Jon Barry and a future first-round draft pick.
August 2 2001
Signed forward Rodney White, their first-round pick, to a three-year contract.
July 24 2001
Re-signed free agent forward Corliss Williamson to a multi-year contract; signed free agent centers Zeljko Rebraca and Ratko Varda to multi-year contracts.
July 18 2001
Traded forwards John Wallace and Jud Buechler to the Phoenix Suns for forward Clifford Robinson.
Draft 2001
Selected forward Rodney White (9th overall pick) and Mehmet Okur (38th overall pick).
May 25 2001
Named Rick Carlisle head coach.
April 19 2001
Fired head coach George Irvine.
SEASON 2000-01
February 23 2001
Waived forward Tyrone Corbin.
February 22 2001
Traded forward Jerome Williams and center Eric Montross to the Toronto Raptors for forwards Corliss Williamson, Tyrone Corbin and Kornel David and a future first-round pick.
November 20 2000
Signed free agent forward Joe Smith, who had been with the Minnesota Timberwolves, to a one-year contract; waived forward Torraye Braggs.
October 18 2000
Waived forward Ansu Sesay.
October 17 2000
Traded forward Loy Vaught to the Dallas Mavericks for guard Dana Barros and forward Ansu Sesay.
October 11 2000
Waived center Matt Fish.
September 12 2000
Waived guard Eric Murdock.
August 31 2000
Named Dave Twardzik and Mike Sanders assistant coaches.
August 29 2000
Traded forwards Christian Laettner and Terry Mills to the Dallas Mavericks for forwards Cedric Ceballos and John Wallace, guard Eric Murdock and cash.
August 22 2000
Traded guard Lindsey Hunter to the Milwaukee Bucks for forward Billy Owens.
August 3 2000
Signed and traded forward Grant Hill to the Orlando Magic for guard Chucky Atkins and center Ben Wallace.
Draft 2000
Selected guard Mateen Cleaves (14th overall pick) and forward Brian Cardinal (44th overall pick).
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I asked for a name and I still don't see one. Debate over!!!

Post  Phil1980boy on Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:16 pm

No reason debating with you sour cynic. You not on my level. I asked 1 simple question, GIVE ME A NAME? And all that rambling and trash, 5 page post and I did not see 1 name.

All I see is " Give some no name guy a chance." LOL! Sour Cynic. Next time your in A air plain I hope you get A rookie, no name, first time around Captain. I hope if you have major surgery you get A new, no name, first time around Doctor.

LOL! If the Tigers get to the world series I want to see A first time, no name, no experience empire behind the plate calling balls and strikes. DUMB!! facepalm

I'm done debating with you because it's like debating with a baby.

I will ASK THE QUESTION 1 more time. GIVE ME A NAME????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Good to see you 2 feuding again!

Post  Grizz2 on Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:16 pm

Cynic and Phillip, Good to see you 2 feuding again! .. that is ... Makes for more interesting forum ..

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Better coached game ..

Post  Grizz2 on Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:18 pm

Havent seen the game .. just boxscore watching while at work .. but .. seeing Monroe getting more shots .. and Mackline playing ... makes Frank seem less stupid or a better coach .. and .. the proof is in the score at least being close against a very good Pacer team ...

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Post  merc on Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:23 am

9th spot it is... this game was a poster for the type of player needed... rebounding and inside defender.

Since we're 3+ years without a trade we need to take a poll on when the next trade will happen... I'll go with June 28th (date of the draft)
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I take it back!

Post  Grizz2 on Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:10 am

3 Indiana starters rested for this game and we still coulnt win .. Some good moves in getting Monroe more shots and playing Macklin .. but .. cannot be hyped on Frank if he cannot take this team down 3 starters and win the game .. Frank will likely coach next year but no one should be excited about it ..

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REAL TALK

Post  deusXango on Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:07 am

Wise Fan, that was an absolutely awesome chronology of the lucky man called "Jelly Joe." With that type of brain power why waste it frustrating yourself trying bring the lost up to the level of frothing from the mouth idiot?

Phillip Boy, don't you think that Bill Laimbeer deserves the same chance Dumars had to run this franchise? He would come in better equipted, background and experience wise, than Joe was. Joe was just liked by the owner! If you want a "name," how about Jerry West? If he can go to Memphis why can't Tom Gores get him to come to Detroit? Mr. Gores may like Laimbeer, or already have a sound relationship with West from California; ever think of that?

Grizz, all I can say is, it was sad. The box score don't tell the real story; half of those "shots" by Monroe were put-backs of missed shots of others, and Lil' Larry's coaching leaves a great deal to be desired. He's one hell of a politician, and that's it. If he coached like he politics, we'd be in good shape, but alas, our search will continue.

Merc, I'm with you....draft night is the latest/earliest a trade will be made. A trade really is a must by then.

With the way we arrived at the 9th spot this year one thing is certain, we've got the spare parts to acquire additional draft picks this year to vastly improve our rebuild efforts. Mid to late first rounder, and an early second rounder anyone?
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I asked for a name and I still don't see one. Debate over!!!

Post  WTF on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:43 am

Phil1980boy wrote:No reason debating with you sour cynic. You not on my level. I asked 1 simple question, GIVE ME A NAME? And all that rambling and trash, 5 page post and I did not see 1 name.

All I see is " Give some no name guy a chance." LOL! Sour Cynic. Next time your in A air plain I hope you get A rookie, no name, first time around Captain. I hope if you have major surgery you get A new, no name, first time around Doctor.

LOL! If the Tigers get to the world series I want to see A first time, no name, no experience empire behind the plate calling balls and strikes. DUMB!! facepalm

I'm done debating with you because it's like debating with a baby.

I will ASK THE QUESTION 1 more time. GIVE ME A NAME????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Kevin Pritcher, Bill Lamibeer, Magic, Larry Brown, Chris Mullins, Phil Jackson and any other human not name Joe Dumars. I told you once all your analogies are stupid and WTF is a Air Plain Thank God I'm not at your level since I passed 1st grade some 40 years ago. Anybody with a half of brain knows not trade to CB and not to sign Ben Gordon and Charlie what makes Joe so special other than you like sniffing his drawers?

Did you already have janitorial experience before Joe hired you to clean toilets at the fieldhouse or did you start from the bottom up? Did Joe have experience before being hired as GM of the Pistons?

You're right Pee Boy no point in debating because you're stupid, If the pilot can fly or the surgeon went to medical school and umpire can see who give a shit if it their first time or not, even though none that crap has anything to do with Joe ass being replace.

Lets see Pee Boy every 8 years we get a rookie in the White House, Maybe we should have an election and vote for a new General Manager and vote Joe dumb ass out of his Palace office. How dumb and childish is it to continue sucking on that 2004 tit that's all dried up.
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REAL TALK

Post  WTF on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:54 am

DX there is more bad in that list than good and much of the good was more lucky than genius of the part of FAT JOE.

Pee Boy acts as if Joe was born as a GM, or as if only Joe can start from the bottom and succeed. In his mind nobody deserves a chance.
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Good highlights .. and I like Linkin Park .. but .. weak effort / wrong song for play offs ..

Post  Grizz on Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:59 am

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I asked for a name and I still don't see one. Debate over!!!

Post  Phil1980boy on Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:06 am

Kevin Pritcher: How many championships does this guy have? I have ZERO! How man do you have?



Bill Lamibeer: Where is Bill these days? Can you look Piston fans in the face and say this is the best guy to take over for Joe Dumars NO!!!!! NO!! NO!!! You can't


Magic: He owns the DODGERS! Last time I checked that's A Got-Dame Baseball team! Don't have shit to do with NBA!

Larry Brown: Yes replace Joe with A guy who can't stay with 1 Got-Damn team! And he 90 year old! Yes that's real smart!

Chris Mullins: Yes, Chris lives in Golden State, and he loves the Warriors. Sure, he will come to Detroit. He will move his family, wife, kids, house, every Damn thing to live and work in Sunny Michigan! STUPID! STUPID! Stupid! facepalm

Phil Jackson: Sure, 1 more 90 year old guy. Perfect age to rebuild with. A 90 year old who just quit Working for one of the best FRANCHISES IN SPORTS HISTORY IN THE Lakers. Yes, he will come to Detroit. Forget The NY Knicks. Honey, let's pass on LA, let's pass on New York. let's go to Detroit??? STUPID! STUPID! STUPID! facepalm


I asked for Names not FANTASY PICKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is not NBA 2K!
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I asked for a name and I still don't see one. Debate over!!!

Post  WTF on Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:04 am

PBoy it's not my fault you can't consider anyone beyond Joe running this team and really doesn't matter what name I put out there you'll debated by saying what they haven't accomplished.

In all honesty I could have given 50 names, but because you seem to think that having already won a championship is required criteria for replacing Joe than in your small minded world no one can replace Joe. But this speak to a more larger larger picture in all seriousness of you as a person in being this close minded. Perhaps you need to grow up and stop acting like a dumb ass, I really don't believe that you're this dense and this stupid.

I wonder if your concept for hiring is okay when your kids become young adults to go out and apply for jobs after spending all that money on their education will you feel the same way in your dumb ass thinking. I highly doubt that you would find that thinking acceptable.

Seriuosly stop acting like some school girl. Joe has screwed up this team you can't deny it and he should be rightfully fired for his decision the pass 6 or 7 seasons.
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Stuckey during the month of April

Post  Sebastian on Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:32 am

Pistons fans, I have to tell you that I am bit perturb and disturb with my man Stuckey's play during this the final month of the season.

I am one of the biggest Rodney Stuckey fans on this forum and I was pleased with the re-signing. As the season started, I did become a bit mystified at Stuckey's slow start to the season, during the month of December, but was greatly pleased as he begin to play much, much better during February and March.

However during this the final month of the season, Stuckey has been somewhat of a pedestrian player, outside of the Hawks (27 pts., 3 ast., 3 rbs.) on April 6 and Chicago (32 pts., 4 rbs., 3 stls.) on April 15, Stuckey hasn't done very much.

The chart, below, illustrates the lackluster play that Stuckey has demonstrated during April.

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Note: Stuckey was a DNP-CD on April 3 against the Magic and he fouled out of the April 5th game versus the Wizards.

In my opinion, Stuckey needs to ball like there is no tomorrow in the finale against the Sixers on Thursday and return to training camp with the desire to play every game (next season and thereafter) like it is his last.



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